OneDrive vs Flickr
Notes and comparisons
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After reviewing several options for ways to link my website to photo albums housed elsewhere, I ended up looking at OneDrive and Flickr as the primary options to consider. This page contains a preliminary evaluation of using those two platforms for presenting photo albums and sets of documents. It also contains instructions for me on how to upload photos and documents to those accounts, and some of the pros and cons for me in using them.
I have not fully explored all options. I looked briefly at other photo sharing programs besides Flickr, and at file sharing programs (such as Dropbox) before deciding that OneDrive and Flickr would be the primary options I would compare. Also, I have mainly been using my Windows 10 computer and my relatively new Android cell phone and tablet, and mostly using Chrome as my browser. I have asked others to do some testing on Mac computers and iPhones, as well as other browsers such as Firefox, Microsoft Edge, Safari, Internet Explorer, etc., but I have only a small amount of feedback on those.
Here are some of the questions I have, and some preliminary observations and conclusions.
PRELIMINARY EVALUATION AND CONCLUSIONS
Option 1: OneDrive
It is possible to include documents such as Word documents or PDF documents along with photo and image files.
Easy to see all my photos. [expand: does this mean on the website, or for me?]
Easy to see the organization.
Easy to make changes.
Easy to create a link and inserted in the website.
Can make and organize albums.
Can reorder photos in albums
Can make albums public or private
Can share private albums with selected people with a web link
Keywords on photos in Lightroom remain on photos and can be used to search for photos.
CONFIRM: is it possible to download individual photos or sets of photos or complete folders?
May be difficult to insert a new photo.
Compared to Flickr, there are fewer ways to organize photos. It is not possible to just drag a photo to a new location within an album.
Unlike Flickr, it is not possible to have one photo appear in multiple albums.
I still need to compare how well the photos display and how well they show the photo caption.
Option 2: Flickr
Possibly easier to pass along to someone else when I stop using it.
Easier to organize photos by moving them
I may not have to export photos with a number in front of them in order to retain the desired organization.
Possibly easier to insert a new photo or document
Paying for the Flickr professional site also seems to work well with Blurb and give some discounts on Blurb books that I might actually end up using. Check out whether the Blurb discounts will work ok if I create a Blurb book through Lightroom.
It is NOT possible to include documents such as Word documents or PDF documents along with photo and image files.
To keep the organization in Flickr synchronized with Lightroom, I will need to be very good about creating galleries in light room that parallel all of the galleries in Flickr.
Further notes on test results for viewing photos on Flickr:
When I initially tested the link to the single private photo, it loaded with an error message on the first attempt and then loaded ok on the second try.
The link to the single photo shows you the photo in the photo stream, so that going backward or forward from there displays photos that are not in any sensible order.
From any link to Flickr, the viewer can now get access to all public albums and photos. This can be good or bad.
When the photo is displayed, you do not see the photo caption (description in Flickr) unless you scroll down. It would not be obvious that the caption is there.
If you click on the photo, it becomes larger and you can scroll around a bit. It is not obvious that this will happen. This was quite a nice feature when viewing the Towle photos of people.
Questions for users:
How easy is it to view the photos?
How intuitive is the interface?
Do photos display well on all screen sizes? Computer? Tablet? Phone?
For large photos, can they be expanded to full size. For a photo with lots of faces, for example, can you zoom in to see individual faces and more detail?
How well does this work when viewing photos or documents on a phone?
After linking to one album or photo, is it possible to also access other photos or albums directly from the remote site (OneDrive or Flickr)?
Can photos be downloaded? How hard is it to download individual photos, groups of photos, or entire folders?
Questions for me:
How easy is it to upload photos from Lightroom?
After initial uploading, how easy is it to change photo order or sequence?
After initial uploading, how easy is it to insert or add another photo?
Can documents such as PDF files or DOC files be displayed?
Can movies be shown?
How easy is it to link to the album from the website?
How easy is it to link to an individual photo from the website?
How easy is it to keep track of all this in Lightroom?
What are the options and limitations regarding privacy settings?
INSTRUCTIONS for me using OneDrive:
These are old instruction to me kept here as reference, but they need to be updated. As of 3/2017: Decide on a folder name and use it as a keyword to apply to all photos and also use it as a folder name to put the folder in, inside Pictures > TEMP photos to delete. Note that the uploaded photos will be sorted by filename, so export with revised filenames if desired.
Select all photos and export them from Lightroom using 2048 pixels on longest side. Export to the OneDrive folder inside Pictures > TEMP copies to delete, and then move the folder into the OneDrive Photos to Share folder inside the appropriate sub-folder. Photos will upload. You can right-click directly in Explorer to get a link to share. I should CHECK WHETHER this link allows editing. You also can get a link by viewing the photos online, where it gives you options to allow editing (view only is the default). Be sure to check that the link is to a folder, not an individual photo.
INSTRUCTIONS for me using Flickr:
To be added later if I decide to use this option. Add notes regarding how photo captions that are associated with the photo are uploaded as the “Description” in Flickr.
Getting links to galleries
Log on to Flickr.
Navigate to desired Album.
Click the Share icon and copy the url.
Paste the url in the appropriate location on my website. Set the link to open in a new tab.
Notes on Flickr:
To allow proper sharing, go to Batch Edit and change permissions to make all photos Public.
Also set Safety Filter to SAFE for all photos. If not set to Safe, Flickr will share with other Flickr users who have set their own safety filter to allow it, but will not share with non users.
If I decide to continue using Flickr, I will have to explore further whether I want to use it for any photos that are not public, and how to do that.
Option 3: Create a gallery in Lightroom and upload the gallery to my website
I have pretty much decided against this option. Initial creation of the gallery would be nice and would integrate well with Lightroom. However, it seems like it will be very hard to change an gallery once I have created it. Most likely even a small change would require uploading the entire gallery again. Also, I have not yet figured out how to upload a gallery directly into my WordPress website. Finally, having all those photos on the WordPress website seems like it would make it very hard to see their organization and to keep them organized. The obit will be tons of documents that it will not be easy to keep them all straight. And beyond all of those concerns, this would only work for photo galleries. It would not allow me to include documents in the album, such as a Word or PDF document. There are times I want to do that.